Talk:Clever Hans Effect

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This article might be better placed not as a "scientific principle," which it isn't, really, but as an example of an Illusion and Delusion, which it clearly is. -- Dr Kitten

I think one of these days, the entire index structure is gonna have to be redone. I'll move the link for now.

Oh beyond a certian size it breaks down completely so we will have to rely on catigories and links through from other articles.Geni 22 September 2005 21:10 (GMT)

[edit] Civil rights? What are those?

If the dog “alerts” the possible presence of drugs, this may be considered evidence supporting probable cause for a search. However, the human handler may have a (possibly unwarranted) suspicion, which the dog interprets as a signal that it ought to alert. In this case, the cause to search is based on nothing but the handler’s suspicion, which would normally be considered a civil rights violation.

In the USA only. Everywhere else, customs officers need no probable cause to conduct any invasive search they feel like. Especially the UK. Diamond September 22, 2005 22:53 (GMT)

Drug-sniffing dogs are not only used by customs officials, at least here in the USA. I don't know if this negates your point or not. --Rslancastr 23 September 2005 00:01 (GMT)

Damn my USocentric worldview! Technically, I suppose, this isn't even true of the US, since the SC has said that the dog alert does constitute probable cause. One possible argument is that civil rights are civil rights, regardless of whether any particular government recognizes or defends them. Let's not go there. I was gonna re-word this paragrab anyway, so I'll hedge this point a little. user:Phildonnia